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regards, tom lane
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From zakkr@zf.jcu.cz Wed May 9 05:12:41 2001
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Wed, 9 May 2001 11:12:35 +0200
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Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 11:12:35 +0200
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From: Karel Zak <zakkr@zf.jcu.cz>
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To: Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
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cc: pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
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Subject: Re: [HACKERS] NOCREATETABLE patch (was: Re: Please, help!(about Postgres))
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Message-ID: <20010509111235.A18101@ara.zf.jcu.cz>
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References: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1010129230017.31607B-100000@ara.zf.jcu.cz> <200105071848.f47ImBh20345@candle.pha.pa.us>
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In-Reply-To: <200105071848.f47ImBh20345@candle.pha.pa.us>; from pgman@candle.pha.pa.us on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 02:48:11PM -0400
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Status: ORr
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On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 02:48:11PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
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>
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> Can someone remind me what we are going to do with this?
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>
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> > This patch add to 7.0.2 code NOCREATETABLE and NOLOCKTABLE feature:
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It's my old patch, it's usable and some people use it for 7.0.x. But
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it's really temporary solution and it was 1 day in official CVS :-)
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We remove it after discussion with Peter E. More correct will implement
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better privilege system.
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A privilege system is *very* important for real multiuser and
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sophisticated systems. For example if you compare PostgreSQL with Oracle,
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the PostgreSQL is really not winner in this part. Peter has some idea
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about it and Jan sent something about it too, but I not sure if somebody
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works on this and plannig it for some next release (or...? -- will good
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if I not right:-)
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Karel
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From pgsql-hackers-owner+M8485@postgresql.org Wed May 9 10:11:53 2001
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From: Mike Mascari <mascarm@mascari.com>
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Reply-To: "mascarm@mascari.com" <mascarm@mascari.com>
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To: "'Zeugswetter Andreas SB'" <ZeugswetterA@wien.spardat.at>,
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"'Bruce Momjian'"
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<pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
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cc: Karel Zak <zakkr@zf.jcu.cz>,
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pgsql-hackers
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<pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
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Subject: RE: [HACKERS] NOCREATETABLE patch (was: Re: Please, help!(about P ostgres))
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Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:29:01 -0400
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Organization: Mascari Development Inc.
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Status: OR
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That makes perfect sense to me. I was only going by what System
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Privileges are granted to the Oracle roles of the same name. Oracle
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has:
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CONNECT -
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ALTER SESSION
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CREATE CLUSTER
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CREATE DATABASE LINK
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CREATE SEQUENCE
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CREATE SESSION
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CREATE SYNONYM
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CREATE TABLE
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CREATE VIEW
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RESOURCE -
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CREATE CLUSTER
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CREATE PROCEDURE
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CREATE SEQUENCE
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CREATE TABLE
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CREATE TRIGGER
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DBA -
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All systems privileges WITH ADMIN OPTION
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But I agree with you. When I was first learning Oracle, I thought it
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strange that the CONNECT role had anything more than CREATE/ALTER
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SESSION privilege.
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Mike Mascari
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mascarm@mascari.com
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-----Original Message-----
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From: Zeugswetter Andreas SB [SMTP:ZeugswetterA@wien.spardat.at]
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Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 3:20 AM
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To: 'Bruce Momjian'; mascarm@mascari.com
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Cc: Karel Zak; pgsql-hackers
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Subject: AW: [HACKERS] NOCREATETABLE patch (was: Re: Please,
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help!(about P ostgres))
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> > The connect group would be granted these System Privileges:
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If we keep it like others (e.g. Informix) this System Privilege would
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be called
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"resource". I like this name better, because it more describes the
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detailed
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priviledges.
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> >
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> > CREATE AGGREGATE privilege
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> > CREATE INDEX privilege
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> > CREATE FUNCTION privilege
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> > CREATE OPERATOR privilege
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> > CREATE RULE privilege
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> > CREATE SESSION privilege
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> > CREATE SYNONYM privilege
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> > CREATE TABLE privilege
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> > CREATE TRIGGER privilege
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> > CREATE TYPE privilege
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> > CREATE VIEW privilege
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The "connect" group would only have the priviledge to connect to the
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db [and
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create temp tables ?] and rights they where granted, or that were
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granted to public.
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They would not be allowed to create anything.
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Andreas
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