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@ -56,7 +56,7 @@ ENHANCEMENTS
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URGENT
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* -Add OUTER joins, left and right[outer] (Tom, Thomas)
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* -Add OUTER joins, left and right (Tom, Thomas)
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* -Allow long tuples by chaining or auto-storing outside db (TOAST) (Jan)
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* -Fix memory leak for expressions (Tom)
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* Add replication of distributed databases [replication]
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@ -95,7 +95,7 @@ TYPES
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o -Allow large object vacuuming
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o -Tables that start with xinv confused to be large objects
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* Add IPv6 capability to INET/CIDR types
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* -Fix improper masking of some inet/cidr types [cidr]
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* -Fix improper masking of some inet/cidr types
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* Add conversion function from text to inet
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* Make a separate SERIAL type?
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* Store binary-compatible type information in the system
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@ -224,7 +224,7 @@ EXOTIC FEATURES
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* Add the concept of dataspaces/tablespaces [tablespaces]
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* Allow queries across multiple databases
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* Allow nested transactions (Vadim)
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* Allow [INSERT/UPDATE] ... RETURNING new.col or old.col (Philip)
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* Allow INSERT/UPDATE ... RETURNING new.col or old.col (Philip)
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* SQL*Net listener that makes PostgreSQL appear as an Oracle database
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to clients
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* Incremental backups
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@ -242,13 +242,13 @@ MISCELLANEOUS
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* Allow cursors to be DECLAREd/OPENed/CLOSEed outside transactions
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* Allow DELETE WHERE CURRENT OF cursor
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* -Transaction log, so re-do log can be on a separate disk by
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with after-row images (Vadim) [logging]
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with after-row images (Vadim)
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* Populate backend status area and write program to dump status data
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* Make oid use unsigned int more reliably, pg_atoi()
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* Put sort files in their own directory
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* Allow autocommit so always in a transaction block
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* Show location of syntax error in query [yacc]
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* -Redesign the function call interface to handle NULLs better[function] (Tom)
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* -Redesign the function call interface to handle NULLs better (Tom)
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* Missing optimizer selectivities for date, r-tree, etc. [optimizer]
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* Overhaul bufmgr/lockmgr/transaction manager
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* -redesign UNION structures to have separarate target lists
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Subject: [HACKERS] Progress report: buffer refcount bugs and SQL functions
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:05:39 -0400
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Message-ID: <6408.938045139@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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I have been finding a lot of interesting stuff while looking into
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the buffer reference count/leakage issue.
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It turns out that there were two specific things that were camouflaging
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the existence of bugs in this area:
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1. The BufferLeakCheck routine that's run at transaction commit was
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only looking for nonzero PrivateRefCount to indicate a missing unpin.
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It failed to notice nonzero LastRefCount --- which meant that an
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error in refcount save/restore usage could leave a buffer pinned,
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and BufferLeakCheck wouldn't notice.
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2. The BufferIsValid macro, which you'd think just checks whether
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it's handed a valid buffer identifier or not, actually did more:
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it only returned true if the buffer ID was valid *and* the buffer
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had positive PrivateRefCount. That meant that the common pattern
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if (BufferIsValid(buf))
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ReleaseBuffer(buf);
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wouldn't complain if it were handed a valid but already unpinned buffer.
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And that behavior masks bugs that result in buffers being unpinned too
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early. For example, consider a sequence like
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1. LockBuffer (buffer now has refcount 1). Store reference to
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a tuple on that buffer page in a tuple table slot.
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2. Copy buffer reference to a second tuple-table slot, but forget to
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increment buffer's refcount.
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3. Release second tuple table slot. Buffer refcount drops to 0,
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so it's unpinned.
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4. Release original tuple slot. Because of BufferIsValid behavior,
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no assert happens here; in fact nothing at all happens.
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This is, of course, buggy code: during the interval from 3 to 4 you
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still have an apparently valid tuple reference in the original slot,
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which someone might try to use; but the buffer it points to is unpinned
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and could be replaced at any time by another backend.
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In short, we had errors that would mask both missing-pin bugs and
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missing-unpin bugs. And naturally there were a few such bugs lurking
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behind them...
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3. The buffer refcount save/restore stuff, which I had suspected
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was useless, is not only useless but also buggy. The reason it's
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buggy is that it only works if used in a nested fashion. You could
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save state A, pin some buffers, save state B, pin some more
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buffers, restore state B (thereby unpinning what you pinned since
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the save), and finally restore state A (unpinning the earlier stuff).
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What you could not do is save state A, pin, save B, pin more, then
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restore state A --- that might unpin some of A's buffers, or some
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of B's buffers, or some unforeseen combination thereof. If you
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restore A and then restore B, you do not necessarily return to a zero-
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pins state, either. And it turns out the actual usage pattern was a
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nearly random sequence of saves and restores, compounded by a failure to
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do all of the restores reliably (which was masked by the oversight in
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BufferLeakCheck).
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What I have done so far is to rip out the buffer refcount save/restore
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support (including LastRefCount), change BufferIsValid to a simple
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validity check (so that you get an assert if you unpin something that
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was pinned), change ExecStoreTuple so that it increments the refcount
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when it is handed a buffer reference (for symmetry with ExecClearTuple's
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decrement of the refcount), and fix about a dozen bugs exposed by these
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changes.
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I am still getting Buffer Leak notices in the "misc" regression test,
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specifically in the queries that invoke more than one SQL function.
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What I find there is that SQL functions are not always run to
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completion. Apparently, when a function can return multiple tuples,
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it won't necessarily be asked to produce them all. And when it isn't,
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postquel_end() isn't invoked for the function's current query, so its
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tuple table isn't cleared, so we have dangling refcounts if any of the
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tuples involved are in disk buffers.
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It may be that the save/restore code was a misguided attempt to fix
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this problem. I can't tell. But I think what we really need to do is
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find some way of ensuring that Postquel function execution contexts
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always get shut down by the end of the query, so that they don't leak
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resources.
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I suppose a straightforward approach would be to keep a list of open
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function contexts somewhere (attached to the outer execution context,
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perhaps), and clean them up at outer-plan shutdown.
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What I am wondering, though, is whether this addition is actually
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necessary, or is it a bug that the functions aren't run to completion
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in the first place? I don't really understand the semantics of this
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"nested dot notation". I suppose it is a Berkeleyism; I can't find
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anything about it in the SQL92 document. The test cases shown in the
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misc regress test seem peculiar, not to say wrong. For example:
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regression=> SELECT p.hobbies.equipment.name, p.hobbies.name, p.name FROM person p;
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name |name |name
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-------------+-----------+-----
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advil |posthacking|mike
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peet's coffee|basketball |joe
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hightops |basketball |sally
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(3 rows)
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which doesn't appear to agree with the contents of the underlying
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relations:
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regression=> SELECT * FROM hobbies_r;
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name |person
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-----------+------
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posthacking|mike
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posthacking|jeff
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basketball |joe
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basketball |sally
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skywalking |
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(5 rows)
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regression=> SELECT * FROM equipment_r;
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name |hobby
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-------------+-----------
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advil |posthacking
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peet's coffee|posthacking
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hightops |basketball
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guts |skywalking
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(4 rows)
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I'd have expected an output along the lines of
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advil |posthacking|mike
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peet's coffee|posthacking|mike
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hightops |basketball |joe
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hightops |basketball |sally
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Is the regression test's expected output wrong, or am I misunderstanding
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what this query is supposed to do? Is there any documentation anywhere
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about how SQL functions returning multiple tuples are supposed to
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behave?
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regards, tom lane
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Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Progress report: buffer refcount bugs and SQL functions
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Andreas Zeugswetter <andreas.zeugswetter@telecom.at> writes:
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> That is what I use it for. I have never used it with a
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> returns setof function, but reading the comments in the regression test,
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> -- mike needs advil and peet's coffee,
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> -- joe and sally need hightops, and
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> -- everyone else is fine.
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> it looks like the results you expected are correct, and currently the
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> wrong result is given.
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Yes, I have concluded the same (and partially fixed it, per my previous
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message).
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> Those that don't have a hobbie should return name|NULL|NULL. A hobbie
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> that does'nt need equipment name|hobbie|NULL.
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That's a good point. Currently (both with and without my uncommitted
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fix) you get *no* rows out from ExecTargetList if there are any Iters
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that return empty result sets. It might be more reasonable to treat an
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empty result set as if it were NULL, which would give the behavior you
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suggest.
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This would be an easy change to my current patch, and I'm prepared to
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make it before committing what I have, if people agree that that's a
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more reasonable definition. Comments?
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regards, tom lane
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> Is the regression test's expected output wrong, or am I
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> misunderstanding
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> what this query is supposed to do? Is there any
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> documentation anywhere
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> about how SQL functions returning multiple tuples are supposed to
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> behave?
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They are supposed to behave somewhat like a view.
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Not all rows are necessarily fetched.
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If used in a context that needs a single row answer,
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and the answer has multiple rows it is supposed to
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runtime elog. Like in:
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select * from tbl where col=funcreturningmultipleresults();
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-- this must elog
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while this is ok:
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select * from tbl where col in (select funcreturningmultipleresults());
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But the caller could only fetch the first row if he wanted.
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The nested notation is supposed to call the function passing it the tuple
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as the first argument. This is what can be used to "fake" a column
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onto a table (computed column).
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That is what I use it for. I have never used it with a
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returns setof function, but reading the comments in the regression test,
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-- mike needs advil and peet's coffee,
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-- joe and sally need hightops, and
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-- everyone else is fine.
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it looks like the results you expected are correct, and currently the
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wrong result is given.
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But I think this query could also elog whithout removing substantial
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functionality.
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SELECT p.name, p.hobbies.name, p.hobbies.equipment.name FROM person p;
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Actually for me it would be intuitive, that this query return one row per
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person, but elog on those that have more than one hobbie or a hobbie that
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needs more than one equipment. Those that don't have a hobbie should
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return name|NULL|NULL. A hobbie that does'nt need equipment name|hobbie|NULL.
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Andreas
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Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Progress report: buffer refcount bugs and SQL functions
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Tom Lane wrote:
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> [...]
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>
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> What I am wondering, though, is whether this addition is actually
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> necessary, or is it a bug that the functions aren't run to completion
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> in the first place? I don't really understand the semantics of this
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> "nested dot notation". I suppose it is a Berkeleyism; I can't find
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> anything about it in the SQL92 document. The test cases shown in the
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> misc regress test seem peculiar, not to say wrong. For example:
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>
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> [...]
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>
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> Is the regression test's expected output wrong, or am I misunderstanding
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> what this query is supposed to do? Is there any documentation anywhere
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> about how SQL functions returning multiple tuples are supposed to
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> behave?
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I've said some time (maybe too long) ago, that SQL functions
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returning tuple sets are broken in general. This nested dot
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notation (which I think is an artefact from the postquel
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querylanguage) is implemented via set functions.
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Set functions have total different semantics from all other
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functions. First they don't really return a tuple set as
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someone might think - all that screwed up code instead
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simulates that they return something you could consider a
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scan of the last SQL statement in the function. Then, on
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each subsequent call inside of the same command, they return
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a "tupletable slot" containing the next found tuple (that's
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why their Func node is mangled up after the first call).
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Second they have a targetlist what I think was originally
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intended to extract attributes out of the tuples returned
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when the above scan is asked to get the next tuple. But as I
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read the code it invokes the function again and this might
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cause the resource leakage you see.
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Third, all this seems to never have been implemented
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(thought?) to the end. A targetlist doesn't make sense at
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this place because it could at max contain a single attribute
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- so a single attno would have the same power. And if set
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functions could appear in the rangetable (FROM clause), than
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they would be treated as that and regular Var nodes in the
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query would do it.
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I think you shouldn't really care for that regression test
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and maybe we should disable set functions until we really
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implement stored procedures returning sets in the rangetable.
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Set functions where planned by Stonebraker's team as
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something that today is called stored procedures. But AFAIK
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they never reached the useful state because even in Postgres
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4.2 you haven't been able to get more than one attribute out
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of a set function. It was a feature of the postquel
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querylanguage that you could get one attribute from a set
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function via
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RETRIEVE (attributename(setfuncname()))
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While working on the constraint triggers I've came across
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another regression test (triggers :-) that's errorneous too.
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The funny_dup17 trigger proc executes an INSERT into the same
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relation where it get fired for by a previous INSERT. And it
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stops this recursion only if it reaches a nesting level of
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17, which could only occur if it is fired DURING the
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execution of it's own SPI_exec(). After Vadim quouted some
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SQL92 definitions about when constraint checks and triggers
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are to be executed, I decided to fire regular triggers at the
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end of a query too. Thus, there is absolutely no nesting
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possible for AFTER triggers resulting in an endless loop.
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Jan
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--
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#======================================================================#
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# It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than for being right. #
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# Let's break this rule - forgive me. #
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#========================================= wieck@debis.com (Jan Wieck) #
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************
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Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Progress report: buffer refcount bugs and SQL functions
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wieck@debis.com (Jan Wieck) writes:
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> Tom Lane wrote:
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>> What I am wondering, though, is whether this addition is actually
|
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>> necessary, or is it a bug that the functions aren't run to completion
|
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>> in the first place?
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|
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> I've said some time (maybe too long) ago, that SQL functions
|
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> returning tuple sets are broken in general.
|
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|
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Indeed they are. Try this on for size (using the regression database):
|
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|
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SELECT p.name, p.hobbies.equipment.name FROM person p;
|
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SELECT p.hobbies.equipment.name, p.name FROM person p;
|
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|
||||
You get different result sets!?
|
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|
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The problem in this example is that ExecTargetList returns the isDone
|
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flag from the last targetlist entry, regardless of whether there are
|
||||
incomplete iterations in previous entries. More generally, the buffer
|
||||
leak problem that I started with only occurs if some Iter nodes are not
|
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run to completion --- but execQual.c has no mechanism to make sure that
|
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they have all reached completion simultaneously.
|
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|
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What we really need to make functions-returning-sets work properly is
|
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an implementation somewhat like aggregate functions. We need to make
|
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a list of all the Iter nodes present in a targetlist and cycle through
|
||||
the values returned by each in a methodical fashion (run the rightmost
|
||||
through its full cycle, then advance the next-to-rightmost one value,
|
||||
run the rightmost through its cycle again, etc etc). Also there needs
|
||||
to be an understanding of the hierarchy when an Iter appears in the
|
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arguments of another Iter's function. (You cycle the upper one for
|
||||
*each* set of arguments created by cycling its sub-Iters.)
|
||||
|
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I am not particularly interested in working on this feature right now,
|
||||
since AFAIK it's a Berkeleyism not found in SQL92. What I've done
|
||||
is to hack ExecTargetList so that it behaves semi-sanely when there's
|
||||
more than one Iter at the top level of the target list --- it still
|
||||
doesn't really give the right answer, but at least it will keep
|
||||
generating tuples until all the Iters are done at the same time.
|
||||
It happens that that's enough to give correct answers for the examples
|
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shown in the misc regress test. Even when it fails to generate all
|
||||
the possible combinations, there will be no buffer leaks.
|
||||
|
||||
So, I'm going to declare victory and go home ;-). We ought to add a
|
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TODO item along the lines of
|
||||
* Functions returning sets don't really work right
|
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in hopes that someone will feel like tackling this someday.
|
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|
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regards, tom lane
|
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Subject: [HACKERS] shmem limits and redolog
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To: pgsql-hackers@postgreSQL.org (PostgreSQL HACKERS)
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 19:46:20 +0100 (MET)
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Hi,
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I'm currently hacking around on a solution for logging all
|
||||
database operations at query level that can recover a crashed
|
||||
database from the last successful backup by redoing all the
|
||||
commands.
|
||||
|
||||
Well, I wanted it to be as flexible as can. So I decided to
|
||||
make it per database configurable. One could say which
|
||||
databases are logged and if a database is, if it is logged
|
||||
sync or async (in sync mode, every COMMIT forces an fsync of
|
||||
the actual logfile and controlfiles).
|
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|
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To make async mode as fast as can, I'm using a shared memory
|
||||
of 32K per database (not per backend) that is used as a wrap
|
||||
around buffer from the backends to place their query
|
||||
information. So the log writer can fall a little behind if
|
||||
there are many backends doing different things that don't
|
||||
lock each other.
|
||||
|
||||
Now I'm a little in doubt about the shared memory limits
|
||||
reported. Was it a good decision to use shared memory? Am I
|
||||
better off using socket's?
|
||||
|
||||
The bad thing in what I have up to now (it's far from
|
||||
complete) is, that even if a database isn't currently logged,
|
||||
a redolog writer is started and creates the 32K shmem segment
|
||||
(plus a semaphore set with 5 semaphores). This is because I
|
||||
plan to create commands like
|
||||
|
||||
ALTER DATABASE LOG MODE=ASYNC LOGDIR='/somewhere/dbname';
|
||||
|
||||
and the like that can be used at runtime (while more than one
|
||||
backend is connected to the database) to turn logging on/off,
|
||||
switch to/from backup mode (all other activity is stopped)
|
||||
etc.
|
||||
|
||||
So every 32 databases will require another megabyte of shared
|
||||
memory. The logging master controls which databases have
|
||||
activity and kills redolog writers after some time of
|
||||
inactivity, and the shmem is freed then. But it can hurt if
|
||||
someone really has many many databases that are all used at
|
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the same time.
|
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|
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What do the others say?
|
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|
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|
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Jan
|
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|
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--
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|
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#======================================================================#
|
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# It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than for being right. #
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# Let's break this rule - forgive me. #
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#======================================== jwieck@debis.com (Jan Wieck) #
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|
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Subject: Re: [HACKERS] redolog - for discussion
|
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To: vadim@krs.ru (Vadim Mikheev)
|
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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 21:07:00 +0100 (MET)
|
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In-Reply-To: <3677B71D.C67462B3@krs.ru> from "Vadim Mikheev" at Dec 16, 98 08:35:25 pm
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Vadim wrote:
|
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|
||||
>
|
||||
> Jan Wieck wrote:
|
||||
> >
|
||||
> > RECOVER DATABASE {ALL | UNTIL 'datetime' | RESET};
|
||||
> >
|
||||
> ...
|
||||
> >
|
||||
> > For the others, the backend starts the recovery program
|
||||
> > which reads the redolog files, establishes database
|
||||
> > connections as required and reruns all the commands in
|
||||
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|
||||
> > them. If a required logfile isn't found, it tells the
|
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> ^^^^^
|
||||
>
|
||||
> I foresee problems with using _commands_ logging for
|
||||
> recovery/replication -:((
|
||||
>
|
||||
> Let's consider two concurrent updates in READ COMMITTED mode:
|
||||
>
|
||||
> update test set x = 2 where y = 1;
|
||||
>
|
||||
> and
|
||||
>
|
||||
> update test set x = 3 where y = 1;
|
||||
>
|
||||
> The result of both committed transaction will be x = 2
|
||||
> if the 1st transaction updated row _after_ 2nd transaction
|
||||
> and x = 3 if the 2nd transaction gets row after 1st one.
|
||||
> Order of updates is not defined by order in which commands
|
||||
> begun and so order in which commands should be rerun
|
||||
> will be unknown...
|
||||
|
||||
Yepp, the order in which commands begun is absolutely not of
|
||||
interest. Locking could already delay the execution of one
|
||||
command until another one started later has finished and
|
||||
released the lock. It's a classic race condition.
|
||||
|
||||
Thus, my plan was to log the queries just before the call to
|
||||
CommitTransactionCommand() in tcop. This has the advantage,
|
||||
that queries which bail out with errors don't get into the
|
||||
log at all and must not get rerun. And I can set a static
|
||||
flag to false before starting the command, which is set to
|
||||
true in the buffer manager when a buffer is written (marked
|
||||
dirty), so filtering out queries that do no updates at all is
|
||||
easy.
|
||||
|
||||
Unfortunately query level logging get's hit by the current
|
||||
implementation of sequence numbers. If a query that get's
|
||||
aborted somewhere in the middle (maybe by a trigger) called
|
||||
nextval() for rows processed earlier, the sequence number
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all that corrupts the whole thing.
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All that is painful and I don't see another solution yet than
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mode.
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Jan
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To have them I need to add tuple id (6 bytes) to heap tuple
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tuple header size, subj is, imho, very nice feature...
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Implementation is , hm, "easy":
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- heap_insert/heap_delete/heap_replace/heap_mark4update will
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HEAP_XMIN_INVALID/HEAP_XMAX_INVALID in all tuples updated
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after savepoint and wake up concurrent writers blocked
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on these tuples (using shmem hash table mentioned above).
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The last feature (waking up of concurrent writers) is most hard
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part to implement. AFAIK, Oracle 7.3 was not able to do it.
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other DBMSes?
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Now about implicit savepoints. Backend will place them before
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state will be rolled back to the one before execution of query.
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As side-effect, this means that we'll get rid of complaints
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Subject: Outer Joins (and need CASE help)
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> Thomas, do you need help on outer joins?
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Yes. I'm going slowly partly because I get distracted with other
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Postgres stuff like docs, and partly because I don't understand all of
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the pieces I'm working with.
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I've identified the place in the MergeJoin code where the null filling
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for outer joins needs to happen, and have the "merge walk" code done.
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But I don't have the supporting code which actually would know how to
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null-fill a result tuple from the left or right. I thought you might be
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interested in that?
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I've done some work in the parser, and can now do things like:
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postgres=> select * from t1 join t2 using (i);
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NOTICE: JOIN not yet implemented
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i|j|i|k
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-+-+-+-
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1|2|1|3
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(1 row)
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But this is just an inner join, and the result isn't quite right since
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the second "i" column should probably be omitted. At the moment I
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transform it from the syntax above into existing parse nodes, and
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everything from there on works.
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I don't yet pass an explicit join node into the planner/optimizer, and
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that will be the hardest part I assume. Perhaps we can work on that
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together.
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So, what I'll try to do (soon, in the next few days?) is put in
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#ifdef ENABLE_OUTER_JOINS
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conditional code into the parser area (already there for the executor)
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and commit everything to the development tree. Does that sound OK?
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Oh, and if anyone is looking for something to do, I've got a couple of
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CASE statements in the case.sql regression test which are commented out
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because they crash the backend. They involve references to multiple
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tables within a single result column, and in other contexts that
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construct works. It would be great if someone had time to track it
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down...
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- Tom
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Bruce Momjian wrote:
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>
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> > Will apply ... some other changes laying a bit of
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> > groundwork for outer joins so you can start on the planner/optimizer
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> > parts :)
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> Those will be a synch now that I understand the optimizer. In fact, I
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> think it all will happen in the executor.
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I've modified executor/nodeMergeJoin.c to walk a left/right/both outer
|
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join, but didn't fill in the part which actually creates the result
|
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tuple (which will be the current left- or right-side tuple plus nulls
|
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for filler). I hope this is up your alley :)
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So far, I'm not certain what to pass to the planner. The syntax leads me
|
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to pass a select structure from gram.y with a "JoinExpr" structure in
|
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the "fromClause" list. I need to expand that with a combination of
|
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column names and qualifications, but at the time I see the JoinExpr I
|
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don't have access to the top query structure itself. So I may just keep
|
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a modestly transformed JoinExpr to expand later or to pass to the
|
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planner.
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btw, the EXCEPT/INTERSECT stuff from Stefan has some ugliness in gram.y
|
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which needs to be fixed (the shift/reduce conflict is not acceptable for
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our release version) and some of that code clearly needs to move to
|
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analyze.c or some other module.
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- Tom
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Subject: Re: [HACKERS] OUTER joins
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>
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> How do you propose doing outer joins in non-mergejoin situations?
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> Mergejoins can only be used currently in equal joins.
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Is your solution going to be to make sure the OUTER table is always a
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MergeJoin, or on the outside of a join loop? That could work.
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That could get tricky if the table is joined to _two_ other tables.
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With the cleaned-up optimizer, we can disable non-merge joins in certain
|
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circumstances, and prevent OUTER tables from being inner in the others.
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Is that the plan?
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> How do you propose doing outer joins in non-mergejoin situations?
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> Mergejoins can only be used currently in equal joins.
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Hadn't thought about it, other than figuring that implementing the
|
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equi-join first was a good start. There is a class of outer join syntax
|
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(the USING clause) which is implicitly an equi-join...
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- Tom
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> > Hadn't thought about it, other than figuring that implementing the
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> > equi-join first was a good start. There is a class of outer join
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> > syntax (the USING clause) which is implicitly an equi-join...
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> Not that easy. You don't automatically get a mergejoin from an
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> equijoin. I will have to force outer's to be either mergejoins, or
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> inners of non-merge joins. Can you add code to non-merge joins in the
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> executor to throw out a null row if it does not find an inner match
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> for the outer row, and I will handle the optimizer so it doesn't throw
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> a non-conforming plan to the executor.
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So far I don't have enough info in the parser to get the
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planner/optimizer going. Should we work from the front to the back, or
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should I go ahead and look at the non-merge joins? It's painfully
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obvious that I don't know anything about the middle parts of this to
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proceed without lots more research.
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- Tom
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> select *
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> from outer tab1, tab2, tab3
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> where tab1.col1 = tab2.col1 and
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> tab1.col1 = tab3.col1
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select *
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from t1 left join t2 using (c1)
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join t3 on (c1 = t3.c1)
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Result:
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t1.c1 t1.c2 t2.c2 t3.c1
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2 12 NULL 32
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t1:
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c1 c2
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1 11
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2 12
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3 13
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4 14
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t2:
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c1 c2
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1 21
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3 23
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t3:
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c1 c2
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2 32
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Just thinking...
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If the initial RelOptInfo groupings are derived from the WHERE clause
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expressions, how about marking the "outer" property in those expressions
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in the parser? istm that is where the parser knows about two tables in
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one place, and I'm generating those expressions anyway. We could add a
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field(s) to the expression structure, or pass along a slightly different
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structure...
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- Tom
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> Thomas, what do you think is needed for outer joins?
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Bruce and I have talked about it some already:
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For outer joins, tables must be combined in a particular order. For
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example, a left outer join requires that any entries in the left-side
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table which do not have a corresponding entry in the right-side table
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be expanded with nulls during the join. The information on the outer
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join can't be carried by the rte since the same table can appear twice
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in an outer join expression:
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select * from t1 left join t2 using (i)
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left join t1 on (i = t1.j);
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For a query like
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select * from t1 left join t2 using (i) where t2.j = 3;
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istm that the outer join must be done before the t2 qualification is
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applied, and that another ordering may produce the wrong result.
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>From what I understand Bruce to say, the planner/optimizer is allowed
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to try all kinds of permutations of plans, choosing the one with the
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lowest cost. But if the info for the join is carried in a
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qualification node, then the planner/optimizer must know that it can't
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reorder the query as freely as it does now.
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I was thinking of having a new qualification node to carry this info,
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and it could be transformed into a mergejoin node which has a couple
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of new fields indicating left and/or right outer join behavior.
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A hashjoin method may be possible for queries which are structured as
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a left outer join; other outer joins will need to use the mergejoin
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method. Also, some poorly-qualified outer joins reduce to inner joins,
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and perhaps the optimizer can be smart enough to realize this.
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- Thomas
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--
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